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 | pakuaplay
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2 Virginia 
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2003-06-11 57375
Anyone use this Grapple Kit?
I'm looking into a B7500/Kioti CK20 and my dealers told me the normal Grapple add on would be to much weight for the FEL (it would half the lift capacity as they run around 200 lbs).
The ATI Grapple Kit says it will come off easily when not needed and so would only be used when I needed it.
I have a lot of underbrush I want to clear from a wooded section and that seems to me to be the best way to bring the brush back out with me.
Note that I am definitely a newbie with ZERO tractor experience (yet), and if there are other ways to efficiently move the brush around after I've unearthed it, feel free to chime in on that too!
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2003-06-12 57386
Last weekend our volunteer fire crew brushed out some old hose drying racks that we can now use. We cut out five pickup loads and one large dump-trailer load from an area that isn't all that large.
The brush we cut would take many many loads if we used a small tractor bucket (grapples or not) and it would take a long time if we had to drive the tractor very far to dump it. Grapples are useful for picking brush up and holding it onto the bucket while dumping it onto a truck that's at the work site. People who do this type work frequently make good use of them. We just pitched the larger material onto the trucks by hand and I collected the smaller stuff and pitched it onto trucks with a hay-fork.
If this is a one-time project a wagon for the tractor may be more generally useful than a grapple for the loader. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2003-06-12 57400
Paku, what is the eventual destination of the uprooted brush? A pile to be burned? The muni dump? ....
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| pakuaplay
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2 Virginia
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2003-06-12 57442
Tom/Mark,
Good points both. The destination is the dump. I can drive the pickup truck (that I had intended to fill up with the brush)right up to the edge of the woods, so I won't need to travel far with the tractor.
This IS a one time project and I would rather get a 4 in 1 bucket that I could re-use in the future, but again with the weight issue. I don't really see an ongoing need for the grapple.
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Pakuaplay ....
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 | Peters
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3034 Northern AL
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2003-06-12 57446
I have used my equipment trailer for a lot of brush moving. You can place the trailer quite effectively with the tractor load it and then bring it to the truck for the trip to the dump. My trailer was $900 for a tandem axel equipment trailer. It certainly has paid its way. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2003-06-13 57467
Good point by Peters. If a tractor can be driven to the site, a tractor plus trailer probably can be as well. The cost of a utility trailer, 3ph trailer bar and detachable bucket forks might cost more than a grapple but all of them would likely see some on-going use. A trailer that has a crank-up stand would be good.
If long pieces are laid across forks a bunch of brush can be piled on top relatively securely. However, most loaders don't have automatic leveling and the bucket tilts back when it's raised. You do have to be careful or a load that's not tied on can fall back onto the tractor and operator.
If those same long pieces end up on the bottom of the trailer, then the trailer can be unloaded by just pulling out the long pieces. Properly done the whole trailer load just slides out. It's a lot easier than trying to unload it piece by piece from the top. If you use a tandem trailer and the landfill has tippage fees, sometimes there aren't any or they are less if the wheels on one axle are removed. I saw a trailer that that on the highway yesterday and I didn't wonder why it was like that for more than a second or so. I'm full of little tricks today.
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